Curse

litewon · Jun 22, 2008, 04:21 PM // 16:21

Hello all, first post here and so far I'm liking the site, lot of useful info about

Well, I guess telling you a bit about my GW experience would be helpful - I got the game when it first came out, did quite a few of the missions + PvE with a couple of mates (W/Mo), and then stopped playing. Until now

I was pretty bored with the same old W/Mo formula and so I decided to change my secondary profession to Elementalist, thus going for all out damage

However, after searching around for a decent PvE build, there were so many conflicting ideas I thought it may be quicker if I just made a post myself. I have very little PvP experience and so I'm leaving a PvP build until a bit later on.

At the moment the setup I'm using is (sorry I have no idea how to do the picture links to skills :S)

Fire 7
Strength 10
Swordsmanship 13
Tactics 9

Fiery Dragon Sword (15-21) customized +20%,
Aegis 15 armour (req 7 tactics) -1 psy damage when enchanted,
Droks Templar armour set with the following runes: Minor Vigor x2, Major Strength, Major Absorption and Major Swordsmanship.

Sprint, Conjure Flame, Watch Yourself, Gladiators Defense (elite), Bonettis Defense, Sever Artery, Gash, Galrath Slash

I only have the original prophecies campaign so obviously skills from the new addons will be useless.

Just want some feedback I guess - any comments good or bad greatly appreciated and suggestions for improvement always welcome!

cheers

N1ghtstalker · Jun 22, 2008, 04:26 PM // 16:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by litewon

Hello all, first post here and so far I'm liking the site, lot of useful info about

Well, I guess telling you a bit about my GW experience would be helpful - I got the game when it first came out, did quite a few of the missions + PvE with a couple of mates (W/Mo), and then stopped playing. Until now

I was pretty bored with the same old W/Mo formula and so I decided to change my secondary profession to Elementalist, thus going for all out damage

However, after searching around for a decent PvE build, there were so many conflicting ideas I thought it may be quicker if I just made a post myself. I have very little PvP experience and so I'm leaving a PvP build until a bit later on.

At the moment the setup I'm using is (sorry I have no idea how to do the picture links to skills :S)

Fire 7
Strength 10
Swordsmanship 13
Tactics 9

Fiery Dragon Sword (15-21) customized +20%,
Aegis 15 armour (req 7 tactics) -1 psy damage when enchanted,
Droks Templar armour set with the following runes: Minor Vigor x2, Major Strength, Major Absorption and Major Swordsmanship.

Sprint, Conjure Flame, Watch Yourself, Gladiators Defense (elite), Bonettis Defense, Sever Artery, Gash, Galrath Slash

I only have the original prophecies campaign so obviously skills from the new addons will be useless.

Just want some feedback I guess - any comments good or bad greatly appreciated and suggestions for improvement always welcome!

cheers

got it in bold and all i have to say is... LOLWUT
i don't know what you're trying to do with this
a good pve war build would be conjure dragon slash but this ain't gonna kill stuff in my oppinion
but since you only have proph i'd roll a shock axe
but you could just go like a conjure [hundred blades] too

Shadowmere · Jun 22, 2008, 04:36 PM // 16:36

Well near from the looks of it that's a fairly solid build for using prophecies only & core skills.

the only things I would change would be to drop one of the blocking stances add an IAS (Increase Attack Speed) skill. Being that you only have prophecies your best option on that front is [Frenzy]. Replace one of your blocking stances with frenzy to gain a nice attack speed boost and have the second stance to cancel frenzy should the damage start to find its way back to you.

Other than that looks pretty good, maybe use a rez or self heal but that's more personal preferance from person to person

Edit: just noticed the rune set up, what N1ghtstalker *tried* to explain was that Vigor runes don't stack with each other, meaning when a rune says +#w/e (non-stacking) it means it won't add with any other rune that adds the same thing and says non-stacking. However if the rune dosen't say non-stacking it will stack with runes like itself and a non-stacking rune. there are slightly weaker +health runes called vitae runes that can stack with one of your vigor runes.

The rune system is rather odd to handle at first I tried the same thing as you when I first started, they should really find a way to explain that stuff better.

Tyla · Jun 22, 2008, 04:50 PM // 16:50

That's surprisingly good compared to what I've seen.

Pump Swordsmanship to 14, using this attribute split:

12+1+1 Swords. 10 Fire Magic. 8+1 Strength.

And a basic Warrior build for sword is: [frenzy][rush][sever artery][gash][final thrust][no skill][no skill][resurrection signet]

Bonetti's and Glad Stance are bad by the way.

Conjure Fire and Savage Slash in the optionals.

Well, take an elite if you want but a PvE Proph Sword Warrior doesn't have any good ones.

litewon · Jun 22, 2008, 04:53 PM // 16:53

Ahh I see, I never knew what stacking meant and just kind of ignored it

cheers for the help guys, gonna keep Gladiators Defense and drop Bonettis for Frenzy until I can get the Hundred Blade Elite, possibly a Rez signet for Sprint as well?

Any other opinions are welcome, cheers guys!

Taurus · Jun 22, 2008, 04:54 PM // 16:54

- @ nightstalker : Good lord... either get the guy's ign and help or leave him alone. Do you really get yourself off by laughing at someone that clearly lacks knowledge about the game ?

Anyway :
- Superior, Major and minor vigor runes dont stack
- Elite defensive skills do not fit GW's gameplay.
- Visit the guild wars official wiki ( http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Main_Page ), A lot of useful info there.

Bobby2 · Jun 22, 2008, 05:37 PM // 17:37

Going through Proph... requires self-sufficiency? Meh. Get your runes straight, first and foremost.

I'd run something like this... W/E
Strength 12+1
Hammer 12+1+1
Earth 3

[skill]grasping earth[/skill][skill]flurry[/skill][skill]for great justice[/skill][skill]crude swing[/skill][skill]earth shaker[/skill][skill]crushing blow[/skill][skill]counter blow[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]

You lack a couple of campaigns, so it's far from ideal, but at least this would give you the essentials for a good Hammer War. Proph also offers a great deal to Axes but Swords are left out: 100B REALLY sucks.

Leave the healing and protting to your monk... while you pwn face.

- EDITed cuz Tyla's right.

Tyla · Jun 22, 2008, 05:41 PM // 17:41

YOUR BUILD LACKS CRUDE SWING BOBBY!

You make me sad.

Bobby2 · Jun 22, 2008, 05:45 PM // 17:45

lol I knew I forgot something

he no have Whirlwind

Enko · Jun 22, 2008, 05:52 PM // 17:52

btw, also might want to get a max sword and a max shield as well.

N1ghtstalker · Jun 22, 2008, 06:09 PM // 18:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taurus

- @ nightstalker : Good lord... either get the guy's ign and help or leave him alone. Do you really get yourself off by laughing at someone that clearly lacks knowledge about the game ?

i'm actually trying to whisp him but he doesn't answer
still got some greens to get rid of and got a furious sword to give to im

RotteN · Jun 23, 2008, 12:11 AM // 00:11

Swap to axe or hammer. At least they have usefull elites. Swords are pretty sub-par if you only have prophecies.

Cut down on the major runes, 2 major runes isn't needed. In fact, only minor runes (except for vigor) do fine on warriors.

as for a PvP build, the best all-round warrior build is prophecies-only :

[build prof=W/E name="shock axe" axe=12+1+1 str=12+1 air=3][frenzy][eviscerate][executioner's strike][disrupting chop][shock][bull's strike][rush][resurrection signet][/build]

So if you're planning on getting into some PvP, getting used to axe in PvE might not be a bad idea. and [[eviscerate] is awesome ^^

**Marty Silverblade** · Jun 23, 2008, 06:49 AM // 06:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by litewon

Ahh I see, I never knew what stacking meant and just kind of ignored it

cheers for the help guys, gonna keep Gladiators Defense and drop Bonettis for Frenzy until I can get the Hundred Blade Elite, possibly a Rez signet for Sprint as well?

Any other opinions are welcome, cheers guys!

If you've got Frenzy, you need to take Rush. Frenzy doubles the damage you take, so having Rush on hand to cancel it (you can only have one stance up at a time) when you're about to get hammered by something is good. Rush is the preferred cancel stance because it's only 4 adr, so it charges quickly, and is ready when you need it (not to mention what it actually does - boosts your movement speed).

If you don't find yourself using the rez signet (the ones that the henchmen bring is enough), then drop it. If you're running Tyla's sword build, you can drop the signet to muck around with some elite ([[Bull's Charge] maybe), or throw in a conjure (though the conjures probably go in the optional slots

).

A Leprechaun · Jun 23, 2008, 10:11 AM // 10:11

If you want to stick with sword then :
[hundred blades][sever [email protected]][[email protected]][final [email protected]][frenzy][[email protected]][conjure [email protected]][res sig]

Swordsmanship - 15 (12+1+2)
Strength - 10 (9+1)
Fire Magic - 9 (9)

Works fine, you want to keep your health reasonabbly high so I would drop the major strength rune.
Absorption isn't very handy now that it only affects phsical damage so you could sub that out, if you want to keep it you can get a superior for next to nothing now-a-days.
So as far as runes go; The best Vigor rune you get afford, major Swordsmanship rune, minor Strength rune, Superior Absorption rune and a Vitae rune.
You can cap Hundred Blades at the end of the campaign, its not the best elite and a lot of people hate it but I use it from time to time and it works very well with a conjure build.
You will probably need new weapons, neither of your current ones are max damage/armour. For a shield you will probably want a strength requirment one, the strength skill line has much more to offer.

Um, thats it, probably loads I have missed out. My IGN is to the left <- PM if you want any more info.

~A Leprechaun~

Tyla · Jun 23, 2008, 03:00 PM // 15:00

Well since you can change secondaries, I would actually suggest Monk for the usage of WoH on a Prophecies sword build.

litewon · Jun 23, 2008, 04:36 PM // 16:36

cheers guys